Correct 57 Rear Bumper Body Angle
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Correct 57 Rear Bumper Body Angle
I have seen 57's with the angle of the rear bumper from pointing up to pointing way down looking from the side of the car. Is the "correct" angle having the bottom/top bumper halves join line being horizontal?
Re: Correct 57 Rear Bumper Body Angle
Pretty much. Then the curve of the bottom of the bumper follows the curve of the lower fender. That also put the top of the diffuser almost horizontal along with the seam.
VTCI # 13223
Re: Correct 57 Rear Bumper Body Angle
Thanks Ward!
Sure hope I can get 8 deg. out of it by just rotating the brackets without having to do the dreaded "heat & bend, heat & bend,........."
Sure hope I can get 8 deg. out of it by just rotating the brackets without having to do the dreaded "heat & bend, heat & bend,........."
Re: Correct 57 Rear Bumper Body Angle
You might eliminate some of that angle if you enlarge the front holes where the brackets bolt to the frame. The “side effect” is that this will lower the bumper slightly.
Would a tapered shim between the bumper and the leg of the bracket give you enough rotation?
Would a tapered shim between the bumper and the leg of the bracket give you enough rotation?
Rusty
VTCI 13079
VTCI 13079
Re: Correct 57 Rear Bumper Body Angle
Thanks Rusty:
I will try some beveled washers as you suggested. Anything beats the take it off, bend, then repeat!
I will try some beveled washers as you suggested. Anything beats the take it off, bend, then repeat!
Re: Correct 57 Rear Bumper Body Angle
The other option would be to just replace the brackets as you will be messing with them anyway and you will have the correct geometry in the process. I'll bet the top of the bumper is really close to the body as is. You should have around 1" clearance all the way around just in case your bumper should be tapped. Probably somewhere in the range of $250 with shipping.
VTCI # 13223
Re: Correct 57 Rear Bumper Body Angle
I just took a peek at my 57 tbird sales brochure. Both front and rear bumpers look perfectly level, no tilt up or down. Most of the 57's I've seen, including mine, have a slight upward tilt at the back edge. My guess is it's from changing tires back in the day with that bumper jack and it's bent things up.
Re: Correct 57 Rear Bumper Body Angle
Mine is the same also. Just a slight tilt. Your theory is quite plausible.Jimntempe wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:59 pmI just took a peek at my 57 tbird sales brochure. Both front and rear bumpers look perfectly level, no tilt up or down. Most of the 57's I've seen, including mine, have a slight upward tilt at the back edge. My guess is it's from changing tires back in the day with that bumper jack and it's bent things up.
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Re: Correct 57 Rear Bumper Body Angle
This has all the earmarks for a good tech article/photo layout in the 'Scoop' - common, usually undetected problem that could have a simple (or complex) solution. Having photos of 'properly' aligned bumpers to compare against 'sloping' ones and what the brackets/frame connections look like, both in 'correct' and 'incorrect' configurations, would be helpful.
Alan H. Tast, AIA
Technical Director/Past President,
Vintage Thunderbird Club Int'l.
Author, "Thunderbird 1955-1966" & "Thunderbird 50 Years"
1963 Hardtop & 1963 Sports Roadster
Technical Director/Past President,
Vintage Thunderbird Club Int'l.
Author, "Thunderbird 1955-1966" & "Thunderbird 50 Years"
1963 Hardtop & 1963 Sports Roadster
Re: Correct 57 Rear Bumper Body Angle
I could probably write a book on my life with my T-Bird. I've had it for about 50yrs and the stories I've experienced with it and learned so much along the way. P.S. And still learning.
VTCI # 13223
Re: Correct 57 Rear Bumper Body Angle
Have you ever jacked it up with the bumper jack? When I had my 64 and got a front flat tire I discovered it was impossible to get my usual jacks under the car to jack it up and had to use the bumper jack to get it started so I had enough clearance to put a decent jack under it.
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Actually I never have. First flat I had to go get my floor jack ( young & naive not planning ahead) to change the tire. The wheel actually cracked near the bead. Never have seen it before or since. Jack was missing. Almost every used car I have bought was missing the jack. Go figure, Why is that? Rummaged the wrecking yards and found a car jack just in case again but it wouldn't stow properly. Just in the last year bought an original jack. Pricey but stows properly for trunk open local car shows but most would not know the difference but me but know it's there if needed.
VTCI # 13223
Re: Correct 57 Rear Bumper Body Angle
Did it crack after putting radial tires on it? I've been told that radial tires load the bead of the tire differently than bias and some of the old wheels can't take the load.ward 57 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:38 am Actually I never have. First flat I had to go get my floor jack ( young & naive not planning ahead) to change the tire. The wheel actually cracked near the bead. Never have seen it before or since. Jack was missing. Almost every used car I have bought was missing the jack. Go figure, Why is that? Rummaged the wrecking yards and found a car jack just in case again but it wouldn't stow properly. Just in the last year bought an original jack. Pricey but stows properly for trunk open local car shows but most would not know the difference but me but know it's there if needed.
Re: Correct 57 Rear Bumper Body Angle
Yes. All the others have been fine except I had to adjust the wheel covers as the extra flexing would send them flying.Jimntempe wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:03 amDid it crack after putting radial tires on it? I've been told that radial tires load the bead of the tire differently than bias and some of the old wheels can't take the load.ward 57 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:38 am Actually I never have. First flat I had to go get my floor jack ( young & naive not planning ahead) to change the tire. The wheel actually cracked near the bead. Never have seen it before or since. Jack was missing. Almost every used car I have bought was missing the jack. Go figure, Why is that? Rummaged the wrecking yards and found a car jack just in case again but it wouldn't stow properly. Just in the last year bought an original jack. Pricey but stows properly for trunk open local car shows but most would not know the difference but me but know it's there if needed.
VTCI # 13223