Carburetor thoughts - rebuild or replace

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I had troubles with my 1966 autolite. rebuilt twice. still wasn't great.
If you know someone who's an expert with old carbs, have it rebuilt.
Otherwise get a Holly 600.
My car now starts easily and hasn't given me any issues.
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RedBird64 wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:14 am My thoughts on this matter have changed over the years. Now, I feel that if you're going to stay with a carb, I would get the original professionally rebuilt (not just a kit).

Scott
I watched a video on rebuilding the 4100 and it doesn't seem that hard (not counting adjustment). I'm not sure if there are any decent places to get mine rebuilt in Dallas.
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dmtinker wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:41 am I watched a video on rebuilding the 4100 and it doesn't seem that hard (not counting adjustment). I'm not sure if there are any decent places to get mine rebuilt in Dallas.
I would think Dallas would be one of the easiest places to find a rebuilder. In fact, a quick search brings up tons.

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=carburetor+rebuilder+dallas+texas

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I did a Google search and only got repair shops...
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dmtinker wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:56 am I did a Google search and only got repair shops...
My quick search turned up this guy: https://www.hirerush.com/service/classi ... ice_i31577

From his ad: "I can rebuild your classic car carb or race car carb and get it back to running like new again. I rebuild everything from 1bbl Carter up to Holley Dominator carbs for race cars...I have been rebuilding carbs for over 20 years. I am not a "fly by night" operation, I rent space and specialize in carburetor rebuilds. My company is Dallas Customs & Classics, LLC. I also do Vintage Air installation and disc brake conversions."
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pucknell wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:51 am I had troubles with my 1966 autolite. rebuilt twice. still wasn't great.
If you know someone who's an expert with old carbs, have it rebuilt.
Otherwise get a Holly 600.
My car now starts easily and hasn't given me any issues.
Which model did you get?
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dmtinker wrote: Thu May 21, 2020 2:34 pm
pucknell wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:51 am I had troubles with my 1966 autolite. rebuilt twice. still wasn't great.
If you know someone who's an expert with old carbs, have it rebuilt.
Otherwise get a Holly 600.
My car now starts easily and hasn't given me any issues.
Which model did you get?
I think he's referring to the Holley 4160 600 CFM

That's what I have, love it!
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So the autolite 4100 was a great carburetor for it's time, but times have changed dramatically since those carburetors were new. If you're going for originality for originality's sake, rebuild it! It's a decent enough carburetor for what it is.

However, I just swapped to Edelbrock's AVS2 and that carburetor has completely transformed my car. Not only has my gas mileage improved, but its responsiveness and overall performance has noticeably improved as well. It is a seriously great cruising carburetor. What's great is it can almost literally be bolted on and you're good to go with very minor adjustments. Also, the stock air cleaner totally fits, so no need for changes there either. If you're thinking about a new carburetor, I HIGHLY recommend checking out the new AVS2!!!
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I agree with loud41, unless you are striving for complete originality, get a new carb. Anything out there is bound to be better than a 4100. After all, that carb was designed in the 50's and a lot has changed since then. I've been using an Edelbrock 1406 for 12 or 14 years now and have never touched it. As far as arguments about electric chokes go, I find it hard to believe that there will be enough variation in the temperature of the exhaust gas sucked up through a little tube to change the tension on a bimetallic spring. Once it's hot, it will stay hot and the choke won't move.
Just my thoughts, I'm not an expert on this
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Not to be a contrarian about the old Autolite 4100, but Holley actually took the designs and started making their own versions in the 1990s and named them 4010 and 4011 carburetors. These are now sold new as Summit carburetors.

The Holley 4150 or 4160 advantage is more adjust-ability, but if you just want to pull it out of the box and run it, then that really is not an advantage.

Personally, the only carb I've had good results with just pulling it out of the box and running it was a NOS Autolite 4100 I found at a swap meet 30 years ago. I haven't seen one since.
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I'm looking for something I can buy off the shelf now. I'm not so interested in being 'stock' as I am drivability.
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I really liked my out of the box Edelbrock, but it did require some jet and rod adjustments to dial it in.

I'm still trying to figure out how to get this Holley to work right.
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If you need a carb let me know. I've got an assortment of edelbrock and holley carbs I'm in the process of rebuilding right now. I also have a brand new vaccuum secondary 650 cfm street brawler carb. That sat on my engine stand until I decided to go with the sniper EFI system.
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loud41 wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 3:15 am So the autolite 4100 was a great carburetor for it's time, but times have changed dramatically since those carburetors were new. If you're going for originality for originality's sake, rebuild it! It's a decent enough carburetor for what it is.

However, I just swapped to Edelbrock's AVS2 and that carburetor has completely transformed my car. Not only has my gas mileage improved, but its responsiveness and overall performance has noticeably improved as well. It is a seriously great cruising carburetor. What's great is it can almost literally be bolted on and you're good to go with very minor adjustments. Also, the stock air cleaner totally fits, so no need for changes there either. If you're thinking about a new carburetor, I HIGHLY recommend checking out the new AVS2!!!

After reading this, I looked into the AVS2 carbs, and now I'm thinking about it. Which model did you get - the 1906? What did you have to do to make it operable on the TBird? Things like throttle linkage, choke wiring, fuel & vacuum plumbing, etc. Thanks.
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I went back to the 4100 on my 63. You can get one from rock auto cheap enough. Bolt it in place and be done with it. My 64 has the edelbrock from the po. It runs good but the air cleaner did not fit and other mods had to be made to make it work.
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