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crashchoate
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Re: 1964 Thunderbird build

Post by crashchoate » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:46 pm

stubbie wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:18 pm
So as I pointed out earlier there are differences between water pumps.
Yes all three pumps are different.

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Re: 1964 Thunderbird build

Post by RedBird64 » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:09 pm

crashchoate wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:11 pm
RedBird64 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:48 pm
I'm curious what the difference is between the right and wrong water pumps?

Scott
I was writing a long post while you were typing. I hope this helps. :smile:

LOL, my crummy timing!

Scott
1964 Coupe Wimbledon white/Rangoon Red w/black int. Owned for 42 years. It was my folks car before that (second owners). VTCI # 12013.

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Re: 1964 Thunderbird build

Post by crashchoate » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:02 am

stubbie wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:49 pm
Hi crashchoate I had a similar problem with my 64. There are slight differences between water pumps that interfere with the alternator brackets sitting flush. I had big problems trying to figure out why my idler pulley wouldn't sit in line with the other pulleys. turned out that the water pump was from maybe a 70's Ford and the bracket had been bent to fit. I think this is the post viewtopic.php?t=13037
I remember looking into this. Thank you stubbie for the link. I bought both the versions from oreillys and thought one of them would be correct. After looking through your thread again we had the same problem. Should have paid more attention. Again thank you.

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Re: 1964 Thunderbird build

Post by RedBird64 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:13 pm

FWIW, I was able to get the newest and most universal type to work on my non-A/C car. The missing "nub" that sticks out on the correct part is unused on my car so the hole that the unit below employs is fine. I assume this is for AC?

Common, "universal" FE WP for 65+ M/Y.
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BTW, this one is in perfect condition and has less than 1K miles on it. It's a high-flow aftermarket part and if anyone near me want's it, they are welcome to it (N/C).

Scott
1964 Coupe Wimbledon white/Rangoon Red w/black int. Owned for 42 years. It was my folks car before that (second owners). VTCI # 12013.

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Re: 1964 Thunderbird build

Post by Alan H. Tast » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:49 pm

Please post some critical dimensions for us re. this pump:

1. Height/length of pump from the outlet flanges that sit against the engine block to the face of the fan hub (the face that the fan and clutch seat against). Is it 7-1/2" or different?

2. Length of inlet neck (what the lower hose goes over) from the pump shaft to the end of the neck. Is it approximately 7-1/4" or different?

See this thread for additional information:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3699&p=84233&hilit= ... ons#p84233
Alan H. Tast, AIA
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Vintage Thunderbird Club Int'l.
Author, "Thunderbird 1955-1966" & "Thunderbird 50 Years"
1963 Hardtop & 1963 Sports Roadster

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Re: 1964 Thunderbird build

Post by RedBird64 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:34 pm

Alan H. Tast wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:49 pm
Please post some critical dimensions for us re. this pump:

1. Height/length of pump from the outlet flanges that sit against the engine block to the face of the fan hub (the face that the fan and clutch seat against). Is it 7-1/2" or different?

2. Length of inlet neck (what the lower hose goes over) from the pump shaft to the end of the neck. Is it approximately 7-1/4" or different?

See this thread for additional information:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3699&p=84233&hilit= ... ons#p84233
Hey Alan, not sure if this was aimed at me but..

1. = Between 7 9/16 and 7 5/8" (the flange seems extra thick)
2. = From edge of inlet neck to the very center of the pump shaft measures 8 1/8". The same measurement to the inside edge of the shaft is 7 3/4".

You probably already know this but from what all the descriptions say for generic FE pumps, they always state for M/Y 65 and later.

Scott
1964 Coupe Wimbledon white/Rangoon Red w/black int. Owned for 42 years. It was my folks car before that (second owners). VTCI # 12013.

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Re: 1964 Thunderbird build

Post by stubbie » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:27 pm

My original pump on my 64
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Sorry Alan could only find a rule in centimeters

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Re: 1964 Thunderbird build

Post by crashchoate » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:52 pm

Ok gentlemen I have a question. I’ve been putting the radiator and wiring back in it’s place but I’ve run into something weird. As I was putting the trans lines back on one of the rubber lines broke. So I was just looking at it and noticed something in the line. Can any of you tell me what or why this is in the trans line.
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Re: 1964 Thunderbird build

Post by RedBird64 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:01 am

Unlike Stubbies orig. WP, my early 64's orig unit had the the post in place of one of his threaded holes.
I'm looking forward to hearing what Crash's plug was. How could fluid have flowed with that thing in the line?

S
1964 Coupe Wimbledon white/Rangoon Red w/black int. Owned for 42 years. It was my folks car before that (second owners). VTCI # 12013.

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