57 bird oil pan removal
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57 bird oil pan removal
I have a a 57 bird with auto trans and want to change the oil pan gasket.
Is there a simple method, without an engine hoist, to get the pan off, because the front engine mount is in the way for several front pan bolts and removal.
Is there a simple method, without an engine hoist, to get the pan off, because the front engine mount is in the way for several front pan bolts and removal.
Re: 57 bird oil pan removal
I have not removed my pan so take this for what it's worth. My car is currently up on jacks and I looked at the oil pan installation, in fact I put a socket on all of my bolts just to make sure they are all tight. I was able to get to the front bolts using swivel sockets, I have a 1/4 inch set of snap-on that will take the necessary torque. I can't tell you if the pan will clear the bottom of the engine. Although I would not be afraid to try. Good luck.
57 D code Colonial White
Wise man once told me, "you don't know what you don't know"
West Newton, PA
Wise man once told me, "you don't know what you don't know"
West Newton, PA
Re: 57 bird oil pan removal
The book also says that you have to have the #1 cyl at top dead center. I've never tried to do the pan on the car, so I'm not sure if you can clear everything.
Re: 57 bird oil pan removal
The pan will come off. You may have to unbolt the idler arm from the frame for clearance, but the pan will come off. I helped a friend take his off to change the rear seal.
1956 Fiesta Red 312
1954 Ford Victoria 312
1948 Ford Convertible Street Rod 302
1954 Ford Victoria 312
1948 Ford Convertible Street Rod 302
Re: 57 bird oil pan removal
Thanks for the input guys!
I had #1 piston at top center, removed idler arm and pan slid right out, no issues.
Hardest part was getting the right tools to remove 2 of the pan bolts below front engine mount. I used a 1/4 inch drive flex joint on a 1/2 inch socket and 4 inch extension, as I didn't have the flex socket itself, but worked fine.
Thanks Again!
I had #1 piston at top center, removed idler arm and pan slid right out, no issues.
Hardest part was getting the right tools to remove 2 of the pan bolts below front engine mount. I used a 1/4 inch drive flex joint on a 1/2 inch socket and 4 inch extension, as I didn't have the flex socket itself, but worked fine.
Thanks Again!
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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal
Just saw this post as I was searching for this procedure. How were you able to get the two front troublesome bolts back on? I may need to change my gasket as well.
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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal
I used a 1/4 “ drive socket with a universal joint and 6” extension to get the troublesome bolts back in when I did the job earlier this year.
Greg Minnich
Kendallville, IN
Kendallville, IN
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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal
Thanks, it sure looks tough.
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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal
Greg, sorry to be dense, but were able to start to the thread bolt with the universal? Or could you start it with your fingers?
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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal
I was able to put the bolt in the socket and use the socket, universal and extension to start the bolt. It took some patience and made very sure it spun on without any force to avoid crossthreading it
Greg Minnich
Kendallville, IN
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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal
Good information to have as this will probably be one of my "winter projects" for the car. Mine is a manual tranny, but I assume it is the same procedure for the oil pan.
1957 Raven Black E-code, manual (second owner)
1990 Super Coupe, auto. (original owner)
1990 Super Coupe, auto. (original owner)
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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal
Older discussion but does anyone have a vendor for a replacement oil pan for the 312? Mine is pretty beat up and abused, looking for a NOS or repop….
Thanks.
Thanks.
Re: 57 bird oil pan removal
I found mine on EBay,
1956 Thunderbird Sage Green
1953 Ford Custom Liner Hot Rod With Flat 8 Motor with Henderson three 2 barrel Carbs
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1953 Ford Custom Liner Hot Rod With Flat 8 Motor with Henderson three 2 barrel Carbs
VTCI Member # 12309
Re: 57 bird oil pan removal
Try CASCO, Hill's or Prestige as they may have a spare pan to sell. In addition, try these guys - they have used parts and are good people to deal with:
Bob Schermerhorn 518-392-2472
Tony's Classics 515-321-0767
Adrian Lori 570-709-0823
They usually are not cheap.
Bob Schermerhorn 518-392-2472
Tony's Classics 515-321-0767
Adrian Lori 570-709-0823
They usually are not cheap.
Wineaviator wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:58 am Older discussion but does anyone have a vendor for a replacement oil pan for the 312? Mine is pretty beat up and abused, looking for a NOS or repop….
Thanks.
1956 Fiesta Red 312
1954 Ford Victoria 312
1948 Ford Convertible Street Rod 302
1954 Ford Victoria 312
1948 Ford Convertible Street Rod 302