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Something's Pulling My New Battery Down

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Ok, from our discussion of powering an electric choke, I took you guys advice, and REMOVED the choke hot wire from the coil.

I thought I had found a suitable replacement, at an ALWAYS HOT terminal on the power windows relay on the firewall.

Then my 3-yo battery died, and would not hold a recharge. We have had brutal hot weather here all summer, and I don't drive my non-ac car but about once a week. So I thought it was just time for a new battery.

Now, my brand new 885 CCA battery has failed TWICE.

Is it possible that the ALWAYS HOT power wire is pulling it down?

That's the only thing new I have don't to my car, since adding the electric choke early spring.

I believe I saw that there's a SWITCHED HOT terminal on top of the voltage regulator, so I am going to try that.
Steve G.
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Absolutley. If anything is hot while the car is off, that energy is coming from the battery.
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RedBird64 wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:21 pm Absolutley. If anything is hot while the car is off, that energy is coming from the battery.
OK, thanks, RedBird64 - I went out this morning and yanked the choke wire. Car seems to start and run WITHOUT the electric choke?

I was hoping to power back to the starter relay (in front of the battery), but the two terminals are ALWAYS HOT. So, I guess it will be through the firewall and to the fuse panel.
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Steve, WIthout the wire attached the car will start normally because the choke will still be in the "cold" position. Your choke will likely stick on too long and that isn't good for your eng.
Without the wire, the transition from cold to warm wont graduate properly.

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RedBird64 wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:13 pm Steve, WIthout the wire attached the car will start normally because the choke will still be in the "cold" position. Your choke will likely stick on too long and that isn't good for your eng.
Without the wire, the transition from cold to warm wont graduate properly.

Scott
Thanks, again, Scott - yes, I realize that. Went out this morning and found a new SWITCHED ON circuit - the fan switch at the firewall, so tapped into it with the choke wire, and it seems to be operating correctly.
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For powering an electric choke on 1961 390 Autolite 4100: I connected mine to the primary output of the generator. With a 10-amp fuse in line. Idea is that the electric choke is powered only when the generator is turning, eg. when the engine is running. Seems to work perfectly and to be the most obvious solution. Question for the experts out there: Is there anything electrically wrong or harmful with powering an electric choke this way?
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jec13 wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 9:38 am For powering an electric choke on 1961 390 Autolite 4100: I connected mine to the primary output of the generator. With a 10-amp fuse in line. Idea is that the electric choke is powered only when the generator is turning, eg. when the engine is running. Seems to work perfectly and to be the most obvious solution. Question for the experts out there: Is there anything electrically wrong or harmful with powering an electric choke this way?
I cannot answer your question, John - sorry

But to update my situation, I tapped into the SWITCHED HOT wire for the electric fan motor (at the firewall). So far, seems to be working fine?
Steve G.
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