Flashers/Hazard lights
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Flashers/Hazard lights
does anyone know if the '63 came with flashers or hazard lights? if so, where is the switch located
Re: Flashers/Hazard lights
G'day.
As far as I know the 63 hardtop only had normal indicators. Mine has no hazard lights and I haven't seen it on any electrical schematic.
Karl.
As far as I know the 63 hardtop only had normal indicators. Mine has no hazard lights and I haven't seen it on any electrical schematic.
Karl.
1963 Thunderbird Hardtop
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Re: Flashers/Hazard lights
4-way Emergency flashers were not mandated until MY 1964. You would need to add a switch, flasher and modify wiring to add to a pre-'64 car.
Ford/Rotunda offered a "universal" kit for an add-on flasher in the mid-'60s that used a bent sheet metal bracket that mounted to the dash and a chromed toggle switch: it was intended to be mounted in the glove box of most cars (i.e. Falcon, Fairlane, Galaxie, Mustang) - finding a place to mount this on a pre-'64 'Bird in the glove tray or on/under the dash may present some aesthetic challenges. A search of the Fourm should yield some threads about this item.
Ford/Rotunda offered a "universal" kit for an add-on flasher in the mid-'60s that used a bent sheet metal bracket that mounted to the dash and a chromed toggle switch: it was intended to be mounted in the glove box of most cars (i.e. Falcon, Fairlane, Galaxie, Mustang) - finding a place to mount this on a pre-'64 'Bird in the glove tray or on/under the dash may present some aesthetic challenges. A search of the Fourm should yield some threads about this item.
Alan H. Tast, AIA
Technical Director/Past President,
Vintage Thunderbird Club Int'l.
Author, "Thunderbird 1955-1966" & "Thunderbird 50 Years"
1963 Hardtop & 1963 Sports Roadster
Technical Director/Past President,
Vintage Thunderbird Club Int'l.
Author, "Thunderbird 1955-1966" & "Thunderbird 50 Years"
1963 Hardtop & 1963 Sports Roadster
Re: Flashers/Hazard lights
One can be made using two Bosch relays, a toggle switch, and a flasher can. That's the easy part. Then you have to find the wires leading to the lamps. That's the crawl on your back under the dash part. I can try building one and let you know how it goes.
Tom in Albuquerque
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Re: Flashers/Hazard lights
No flashers on my 63 SR and were not an option. I know they were on my 64 and 65 but I am not sure if they were options or standard equipment with out doing research. Good Luck
Bill Clark
Bel Air, Maryland
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Bel Air, Maryland
1957 F code
2005 50th anniversary
1963 Avanti R2
1956 GMC Suburban Carrier pickup
1966 Corvair Corsa Turbo
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1964 Convertable
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Re: Flashers/Hazard lights
I figured that the flashers weren't required back in the early 60's for the T bird, there are none on my 65 Mustang either....
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Re: Flashers/Hazard lights
Here is a suggested circuit. It can probably be built for $10 to $15.
Tom in Albuquerque
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1962 Corinthian White Hardtop, Medium Chestnut Metallic #89 Leather, A/C, P/W
2003 Premium Torch Red/Performance White HT, Partial Accent Interior, 1 of 47.
Past T-Bird: 1960 Convertible, 1974-1978
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1962 Corinthian White Hardtop, Medium Chestnut Metallic #89 Leather, A/C, P/W
2003 Premium Torch Red/Performance White HT, Partial Accent Interior, 1 of 47.
Past T-Bird: 1960 Convertible, 1974-1978
Re: Flashers/Hazard lights
Tom, I am a little confused on your schematic, would the flash can not be in the relay coil portion of the circuit, rather than in series with single pole contacts?
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1964 Red Convertible
Flock: 1964 Landau Original Family Owned
1964 Sr Convertible "RAVEN"
Past: 2003 Blk Lab "RAVEN" "RIP"Nov 15/17
1964 Lincoln vin4Y86N00007
1964 Red Convertible
Re: Flashers/Hazard lights
Bill, the four way flashers in 64/65/66 were an option, and part of the Road Convience Package, not all cars had that option.
CDN Member since 1975 #2086
Flock: 1964 Landau Original Family Owned
1964 Sr Convertible "RAVEN"
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1964 Lincoln vin4Y86N00007
1964 Red Convertible
Flock: 1964 Landau Original Family Owned
1964 Sr Convertible "RAVEN"
Past: 2003 Blk Lab "RAVEN" "RIP"Nov 15/17
1964 Lincoln vin4Y86N00007
1964 Red Convertible
Re: Flashers/Hazard lights
Well, that is an interesting thought. That would use the flasher to switch the relays on and off. However, there may not be enough current draw through the coils to activate the flasher, since the flasher is activated by heat created by the current draw through it. Have you ever installed a heavy duty flasher for towing and then when the trailer is gone, the flasher is really slow to operate? So that may not work.Tom, I am a little confused on your schematic, would the flash can not be in the relay coil portion of the circuit, rather than in series with single pole contacts?
Since I drew this on a whim, I now see a mistake. We don't want all the current going through the switch. 12V should go to the can at all times. Then the only power going through the switch should be for the relays.
Heck, I should just delete the whole thing. It is off topic anyway. I guess I read the first question wrong.
Tom in Albuquerque
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1962 Corinthian White Hardtop, Medium Chestnut Metallic #89 Leather, A/C, P/W
2003 Premium Torch Red/Performance White HT, Partial Accent Interior, 1 of 47.
Past T-Bird: 1960 Convertible, 1974-1978
61-63 Forum Moderator
1962 Corinthian White Hardtop, Medium Chestnut Metallic #89 Leather, A/C, P/W
2003 Premium Torch Red/Performance White HT, Partial Accent Interior, 1 of 47.
Past T-Bird: 1960 Convertible, 1974-1978
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Re: Flashers/Hazard lights
Not completely off topic, but is worth pursuing as a "how-to" for those wanting to add to cars without 4-way flashers. Revamp the schematic and reinsert.
Alan H. Tast, AIA
Technical Director/Past President,
Vintage Thunderbird Club Int'l.
Author, "Thunderbird 1955-1966" & "Thunderbird 50 Years"
1963 Hardtop & 1963 Sports Roadster
Technical Director/Past President,
Vintage Thunderbird Club Int'l.
Author, "Thunderbird 1955-1966" & "Thunderbird 50 Years"
1963 Hardtop & 1963 Sports Roadster
Re: Flashers/Hazard lights
For anyone interested, I have corrected the diagram above. I have ordered the parts and will post my results in the modified forum or the tech forum.
Thanks,
Tom
Thanks,
Tom
Tom in Albuquerque
61-63 Forum Moderator
1962 Corinthian White Hardtop, Medium Chestnut Metallic #89 Leather, A/C, P/W
2003 Premium Torch Red/Performance White HT, Partial Accent Interior, 1 of 47.
Past T-Bird: 1960 Convertible, 1974-1978
61-63 Forum Moderator
1962 Corinthian White Hardtop, Medium Chestnut Metallic #89 Leather, A/C, P/W
2003 Premium Torch Red/Performance White HT, Partial Accent Interior, 1 of 47.
Past T-Bird: 1960 Convertible, 1974-1978
Re: Flashers/Hazard lights
Hi Tom,
I am interested in your schematic, I have a 64 Galaxie Convertible and would like to add emergency flashers.
Thanks
I am interested in your schematic, I have a 64 Galaxie Convertible and would like to add emergency flashers.
Thanks
Re: Flashers/Hazard lights
i have all the relays. I just never put it together. I will do that this weekend. I have been away from the forum for a while.
Tom in Albuquerque
61-63 Forum Moderator
1962 Corinthian White Hardtop, Medium Chestnut Metallic #89 Leather, A/C, P/W
2003 Premium Torch Red/Performance White HT, Partial Accent Interior, 1 of 47.
Past T-Bird: 1960 Convertible, 1974-1978
61-63 Forum Moderator
1962 Corinthian White Hardtop, Medium Chestnut Metallic #89 Leather, A/C, P/W
2003 Premium Torch Red/Performance White HT, Partial Accent Interior, 1 of 47.
Past T-Bird: 1960 Convertible, 1974-1978