Deck Lid Weatherstripping Replacement

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Re: Deck Lid Weatherstripping Replacement

Post by Bungalocity » Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:43 pm

Yes! Acetone I use to test old resinous varnish. It will not activate Shellac, Den. Alkie will activate both. Good call

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Re: Deck Lid Weatherstripping Replacement

Post by Bungalocity » Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:45 pm

I also have the problem of the pathetic Rangoon redo over Champaign, it flakes off all too easily. The junk stripping I pulled off half of it has red paint stuck to it... Not to mention rust.
If Body is redone later in the year (mechanicals first!) then this is a $30 sacrifice and experiment, which is OK, and will keep further trunk pan water damage from happening

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Re: Deck Lid Weatherstripping Replacement

Post by stevegintn » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:40 am

Bungalocity wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:45 pm
I also have the problem of the pathetic Rangoon redo over Champaign, it flakes off all too easily. The junk stripping I pulled off half of it has red paint stuck to it... Not to mention rust.
If Body is redone later in the year (mechanicals first!) then this is a $30 sacrifice and experiment, which is OK, and will keep further trunk pan water damage from happening
Bungalo, I chose Rangoon Red out of a color sample book at my paint&body guy's shop and love my car makeoever I just had done!
My car was factory white, but had been painted red by a PO. My paint guy did an extensive, but not total, sand and prime on it. So, so far, no flaking issues?
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Re: Deck Lid Weatherstripping Replacement

Post by Bungalocity » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:12 pm

Yeah I have no problem with RR, I love it and gets more attention than my Border Collie. I'm just pissed the original Champaign is rearing its head in places. Pathetic was the paint job aka prep-work. I see no primer when red comes off

Back on topic, will play around with Acetone and see how the tar-adhesive comes clean?

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Re: Deck Lid Weatherstripping Replacement

Post by stevegintn » Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:39 am

Bungalocity wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:12 pm
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Back on topic, will play around with Acetone and see how the tar-adhesive comes clean?
FYI, it will be Monday before I can catch my son in Memphis, to try to help me install mine - I'll let you know if we have any luck?
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Re: Deck Lid Weatherstripping Replacement

Post by Bungalocity » Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:49 am

FWIW, Autozone has the same 3m 'Yellow' and I believe 'Black' but Yellow is what was paired to my stripping's seller website
It's $10 a tube

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Re: Deck Lid Weatherstripping Replacement

Post by stevegintn » Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:26 am

Bungalocity wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:49 am
FWIW, Autozone has the same 3m 'Yellow' and I believe 'Black' but Yellow is what was paired to my stripping's seller website
It's $10 a tube
Thanks - does in come in a 'caulk gun' tube? (and why yellow vs black?)
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Re: Deck Lid Weatherstripping Replacement

Post by Bungalocity » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:37 am

https://www.amazon.com/3M-08001-Weather ... 3635507769

Different surfaces, different applications

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Re: Deck Lid Weatherstripping Replacement

Post by Bungalocity » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:39 am

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00063X38M/re ... 2ae37525d6

I imagine there's a balance between non-caustic adhesion and impervious to petroleum based solvents (gasoline etc)

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Re: Deck Lid Weatherstripping Replacement

Post by stevegintn » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:32 am

Bungalocity wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:39 am

I imagine there's a balance between non-caustic adhesion and impervious to petroleum based solvents (gasoline etc)
OK, thanks (I was hoping it came in a caulk-gun tube?)
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Re: Deck Lid Weatherstripping Replacement

Post by ICON 1956 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:55 pm

This stuff really works great.
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Re: Deck Lid Weatherstripping Replacement

Post by stevegintn » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:45 pm

OK, Boogaloo and anyone else interested ...

I drove my car into the city to my son's house today, and we were able to install my deck lid weather stripping (the 'easy' way).

We may not have done it correctly? - but it seems to work? (and taking the lid off seemed a better alternative that me lying on my back in the trunk, with gravity working against me holding onto an 8 ft rubber snake?)

If you look closely at the photo, you can see that we glued the seal, largest flat side DOWN, and slotted-side OUT.
Only after we reinstalled the lid and partially closed it, did I realize, the rubber seal does NOT go into the channels along the quarter-panel sides.

Btw, the only adhesive the local parts house had that came in caulking-style tube was a generic automotive black silicone. It seemed to work fine.
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Re: Deck Lid Weatherstripping Replacement

Post by tbird » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:17 am

Steve
You state that the gasket does not sit in the channel around the trunk opening, I assume that it is sealing on the raised lip on the inside edge then?
The assembly manual does not elaborate to much on details for installation.

Assume that what you got from the parts store was Urethane adhesive, Silicone does not make a great adhesive? The gasket looks great corners are nice and flat from what can be seen, how about taking a few closeup pictures of the corners and such.
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Re: Deck Lid Weatherstripping Replacement

Post by Bungalocity » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:13 pm

Steve, can you give an account on if the adhesive seemed to 'take' instantly? I don't mind getting on my back in awkward positions looking up - after all I now own a Thunderbird LOL...but only if I don't have to mess around with clamps and boards to hold it in place. I imagine once you close the lid and let time set in place, you're committed...blindly.

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Re: Deck Lid Weatherstripping Replacement

Post by stevegintn » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:37 pm

tbird wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:17 am
Steve
You state that the gasket does not sit in the channel around the trunk opening, I assume that it is sealing on the raised lip on the inside edge then?
The assembly manual does not elaborate to much on details for installation.
No, not ON the raised lip (or anything else) - it actually slips INTO the trunk space, right against the inside edge. It seems to make a pretty good seal - there is some resistance when you fully push the deck lid down.
tbird wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:17 am
Assume that what you got from the parts store was Urethane adhesive, Silicone does not make a great adhesive? The gasket looks great corners are nice and flat from what can be seen, how about taking a few closeup pictures of the corners and such.
I'll have to go out and take a look (pretty sure what I bought said silicone?)

To answer your next question, it did NOT instantly adhere and hold the gasket in place.
So it was a good thing, I had gravity working in my favor (and a couple coffee cans full of nuts & bolts, on the corners).

I will take you some close up pics, tomorrow.
Here's a side view showing the height of the seal that I used.
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