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More than likely the set from Larry's is the white fleece-backed vinyl (note how the face of the material has a sheen to it). I've yet to hear complaints that the reproduction sets don't fit well, and more often than not the result of poor fit is because the OEM sound deadening material, which has a thickness to it, was removed and not replaced with a material of similar thickness.Kartman01 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:30 am Thank you Alan, your information is very helpful!
Regarding the trunk liner, does anyone make an accurate reproduction of the original style? Is the one I purchased from Larry’s the correct pattern and material? Or is it vinyl as well?
Regarding the installation instructions, can you point me to a source for that information?
Again, many thanks for your help!
Alan H. Tast wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:12 pmMore than likely the set from Larry's is the white fleece-backed vinyl (note how the face of the material has a sheen to it). I've yet to hear complaints that the reproduction sets don't fit well, and more often than not the result of poor fit is because the OEM sound deadening material, which has a thickness to it, was removed and not replaced with a material of similar thickness.Kartman01 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:30 am Thank you Alan, your information is very helpful!
Regarding the trunk liner, does anyone make an accurate reproduction of the original style? Is the one I purchased from Larry’s the correct pattern and material? Or is it vinyl as well?
Regarding the installation instructions, can you point me to a source for that information?
Again, many thanks for your help!
My question, though, is, based on the photos you originally posted, it looks like if that's the mat which is currently in the car, that it's in good shape. Why are you replacing it: Stain? Tear? Wear? Poor fit (again, has the OEM sound deadener been removed and/or replaced)?
Replacement burtex-type material typically has been sourced through Auto Custom Carpets in Alabama: of late they've taken the stance of only selling to dealers and not direct to consumers, so you may need to contact ACC to find out who's a dealer for them. I want to think The Bird's Nest in Portland, OR is and likely others, so if there's a favorite T-bird parts vendor (preferably one who supports VTCI and this website by being a sponsor) you like to use, ask them if they can source the burtex mats. Yes, it is much more expensive than the vinyl/fleece-back ones, but when you put the original burtex material and the replacement vinyl side-by-side you can see the difference in quality and how it lays down.Kartman01 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:13 am Regarding replacing the current liner, it is a combination of poor fit and stains/tears. It photographs much better than it looks.
I will see what Larry's sends me, but if it is vinyl I will send it back. The car is a very nice and highly original example and I really want to fix some of the details - like the trunk area - and get it as nice as I possibly can.
Do you have any recommendations for sources for the correct butex type material?
Where did the sound deadening material go? Are there any sources for the correct sound deadening material in the event mine has been removed and not replaced?
Many thanks!
Alan H. Tast wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:35 amReplacement burtex-type material typically has been sourced through Auto Custom Carpets in Alabama: of late they've taken the stance of only selling to dealers and not direct to consumers, so you may need to contact ACC to find out who's a dealer for them. I want to think The Bird's Nest in Portland, OR is and likely others, so if there's a favorite T-bird parts vendor (preferably one who supports VTCI and this website by being a sponsor) you like to use, ask them if they can source the burtex mats. Yes, it is much more expensive than the vinyl/fleece-back ones, but when you put the original burtex material and the replacement vinyl side-by-side you can see the difference in quality and how it lays down.Kartman01 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:13 am Regarding replacing the current liner, it is a combination of poor fit and stains/tears. It photographs much better than it looks.
I will see what Larry's sends me, but if it is vinyl I will send it back. The car is a very nice and highly original example and I really want to fix some of the details - like the trunk area - and get it as nice as I possibly can.
Do you have any recommendations for sources for the correct butex type material?
Where did the sound deadening material go? Are there any sources for the correct sound deadening material in the event mine has been removed and not replaced?
Many thanks!
As for the sound deadening material, I'll have to let others speak up. Using products like DynaMat, HushMat etc. helps, but the thickness doesn't match the original jute and mastic-type or foil-backed materials. I recall there's a source for thicker material used by Mustang or "Brand X" restorers, but that's been years ago. Like anything else Ford restoration-related, you may be able to source material from the larger Mustang parts vendors and cut it to fit. Again, going through the 1965 Thunderbird Body-Trim-Sealer assembly manual will show the underlayment installation diagrams/instructions. I need to check it, though, to see if it has specification information like thickness and weight (ounce / square foot) for the jute or other materials. This is actually a good question to follow up on for OFS information.
Thanks Alan, much appreciated as always. I will reach out to ACC and see if I can source the correct Burtex trunk restoration kit.
Any insights on sound deadening material - even size/thickness - will be appreciated!
Many thanks!
