57 bird oil pan removal

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57 bird oil pan removal

Post by Ferrbird » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:08 pm

I have a a 57 bird with auto trans and want to change the oil pan gasket.
Is there a simple method, without an engine hoist, to get the pan off, because the front engine mount is in the way for several front pan bolts and removal.

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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal

Post by CSPIDY » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:17 pm

I have not removed my pan so take this for what it's worth. My car is currently up on jacks and I looked at the oil pan installation, in fact I put a socket on all of my bolts just to make sure they are all tight. I was able to get to the front bolts using swivel sockets, I have a 1/4 inch set of snap-on that will take the necessary torque. I can't tell you if the pan will clear the bottom of the engine. Although I would not be afraid to try. Good luck.
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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal

Post by CSavaglio » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:17 pm

The book also says that you have to have the #1 cyl at top dead center. I've never tried to do the pan on the car, so I'm not sure if you can clear everything.

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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal

Post by paul2748 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:39 pm

The pan will come off. You may have to unbolt the idler arm from the frame for clearance, but the pan will come off. I helped a friend take his off to change the rear seal.
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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal

Post by Ferrbird » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:09 pm

Thanks for the input guys!
I had #1 piston at top center, removed idler arm and pan slid right out, no issues.
Hardest part was getting the right tools to remove 2 of the pan bolts below front engine mount. I used a 1/4 inch drive flex joint on a 1/2 inch socket and 4 inch extension, as I didn't have the flex socket itself, but worked fine.
Thanks Again!

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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal

Post by scolastico » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:42 pm

Just saw this post as I was searching for this procedure. How were you able to get the two front troublesome bolts back on? I may need to change my gasket as well.

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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal

Post by 55Greg&Amy » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:24 pm

I used a 1/4 “ drive socket with a universal joint and 6” extension to get the troublesome bolts back in when I did the job earlier this year.
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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal

Post by scolastico » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:33 pm

Thanks, it sure looks tough.

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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal

Post by scolastico » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:20 pm

Greg, sorry to be dense, but were able to start to the thread bolt with the universal? Or could you start it with your fingers?

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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal

Post by 55Greg&Amy » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:54 pm

I was able to put the bolt in the socket and use the socket, universal and extension to start the bolt. It took some patience and made very sure it spun on without any force to avoid crossthreading it
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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal

Post by scolastico » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:52 pm

Thanks Greg

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Re: 57 bird oil pan removal

Post by Firstandtenth » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:58 pm

Good information to have as this will probably be one of my "winter projects" for the car. Mine is a manual tranny, but I assume it is the same procedure for the oil pan.
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