1966 P/steering hoses

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Re: 1966 P/steering hoses

Post by tbird » Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:14 am

The 65 thru 66 Thunderbird Ford/Thompson power steering pumps did not use filters, I believe that the Eaton pumps only used a filter in 1963.
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Re: 1966 P/steering hoses

Post by Terry64HT » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:10 pm

Jim, they are on every 64 I've seen (Including mine) and I think early 65's. I didn't read far enough back in the thread to see that we were talking about a 66.
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Re: 1966 P/steering hoses

Post by paulr » Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:08 pm

tbird wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:14 am
The 65 thru 66 Thunderbird Ford/Thompson power steering pumps did not use filters, I believe that the Eaton pumps only used a filter in 1963.
Have to agree with Terry, Eatons (up through part year 65) with remote reservoirs require a filter; unsure about the res-on-pump units, but I believe so.
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Re: 1966 P/steering hoses

Post by RAVEN » Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:50 pm

To my knowledge, ALL 64 P/S pumps had resi filters, both A/C and Non A/C. The pump is a carry-over from 63, and my Non Air 64 Landau (Dec/63) and 64 Non Air Convert (Feb/64) both are filter fitted.
NOTE this is a comment of information on 64 units, but does not apply to topic on hand which is a 66 pump and hoses.
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Re: 1966 P/steering hoses

Post by redstangbob » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:00 pm

unsure about the res-on-pump units, but I believe so.
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Nope, no where to put one. Anyone consulted their shop manual(s)??
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Re: 1966 P/steering hoses

Post by paulr » Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:20 pm

redstangbob wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:00 pm
unsure about the res-on-pump units, but I believe so.
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Nope, no where to put one. Anyone consulted their shop manual(s)??
Not a word on either reservoir in 64 manual. I must have been assuming that the Eaton (heat-only car) pump would be the same in 65 as in 64; they look alike. Tbird vendors sell 2 filters 1&1/2"h and 1&7/16" high (one for each type...can't recall which). They're sold for cars w/Eaton pumps through '65. Not saying I'm right about anything. Would be weird for Eaton to delete the filter for one year.
http://www.parts123.com/birdnest/pdf/Page80.pdf

Does your car have a Ford type pump?
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Re: 1966 P/steering hoses

Post by Rt.146 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:29 am

Would putting the car on a lift, help greatly with the removal and installation of a new hose?

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Re: 1966 P/steering hoses

Post by Terry64HT » Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:01 am

Depends which hose. For the one from the pump to the steering box, I think you pretty well have to get to the pump end from below. I don't see it would help much for the steering box end.
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Re: 1966 P/steering hoses

Post by Nirich » Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:15 pm

Update:
Jacked the front of the car up and turned the wheel from lock to lock several times just in case i had not purged air thoroughly enough initially.
Also noticed the pump belt was a bit loose, had a good 1" of slack, tighten it up and let the car sit and idle away for about 15 minutes. Pump and hoses got warm but definitely not hot. Didn't take it for a good drive but i figured if the pump was an issue it would get hot fairly quickly.

I have a hoist so to tighten the belt i had an arm of the hoist above the engine bay and put a tie-down around the shaft behind the pulley and over the hoist arm. Then used the ratchet to pull the pump up on the right angle to tighten the belt. Using a pry bar or similar to lever against the block will end up denting the reservoir canister and creating a leak (no, i didn't find this out myself).

Rt.146: Having a hoist definitely helps when taking the return line from the wipers off the back of the pump (and for cleaning up the mess of spilt ATF underneath) and for accessing the top of the steering box via the fender liner.

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Re: 1966 P/steering hoses

Post by paulr » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:40 am

Nirich wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:15 pm

I have a hoist so to tighten the belt i had an arm of the hoist above the engine bay and put a tie-down around the shaft behind the pulley and over the hoist arm. Then used the ratchet to pull the pump up on the right angle to tighten the belt. Using a pry bar or similar to lever against the block will end up denting the reservoir canister and creating a leak (no, i didn't find this out myself).
Never saw anyone do this; appreciate the tip--looking for ways to a avoid the pry bar. In college, I watched a girl (yes) tightening belts on her Galaxie, no less. Something slipped and that was the end of that oil filter adapter.
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