small surge tank hose
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small surge tank hose
Hey, are these cars suppose to have a separate expansion tank? I have a small rubber hose attached to the filler neck port but it does not attach to anything else. It is just open to the ground on the other end. I checked the shop manual as well as pics online and cannot figure it out. Thanks for the help.
- Alan H. Tast
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Re: small surge tank hose
No. What you're asking about is the overflow drain tube. When pressure builds up enough to lift the spring-loaded sealing disc on the underside of the radiator cap, coolant will flow through the overflow tube and onto the ground. Recovery tanks didn't start showing up until after 1966 from the factory (I'm not sure of the exact timeframe they started being used on T-birds as I don't have that committed to memory - yet). The original hose was a thin-wall design that had ribbing running its length to help ID its size. Most people use readily-available fuel line hose or vacuum hose that will fit the pipe - these have a thicker sidewall than the original hose, which didn't need to be pressurized or hold vacuum, but correct reproductions are out there - Jim Wulf can chime in on this better than I can, though I need to get several feet of it for my '63s.
Alan H. Tast, AIA
Technical Director/Past President,
Vintage Thunderbird Club Int'l.
Author, "Thunderbird 1955-1966" & "Thunderbird 50 Years"
1963 Hardtop & 1963 Sports Roadster
Technical Director/Past President,
Vintage Thunderbird Club Int'l.
Author, "Thunderbird 1955-1966" & "Thunderbird 50 Years"
1963 Hardtop & 1963 Sports Roadster
Re: small surge tank hose
Thanks so much, I still have a lot to learn about these generation cars.
Re: small surge tank hose
The thin wall, three ribbed hose Alan references is available from GM parts suppliers for about $9.00 for three feet and it's what I use. More than ample for one car.Alan H. Tast wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:25 pm No. What you're asking about is the overflow drain tube. When pressure builds up enough to lift the spring-loaded sealing disc on the underside of the radiator cap, coolant will flow through the overflow tube and onto the ground. Recovery tanks didn't start showing up until after 1966 from the factory (I'm not sure of the exact timeframe they started being used on T-birds as I don't have that committed to memory - yet). The original hose was a thin-wall design that had ribbing running its length to help ID its size. Most people use readily-available fuel line hose or vacuum hose that will fit the pipe - these have a thicker sidewall than the original hose, which didn't need to be pressurized or hold vacuum, but correct reproductions are out there - Jim Wulf can chime in on this better than I can, though I need to get several feet of it for my '63s.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-72-GM-Car ... SwtJZXVjLY
There is another supplier that sells ribbed overflow hose supposedly for Fords for $20.00 for three feet. Same exact hose, you pick.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Ford-Radia ... SwMrZckPDC
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Re: small surge tank hose
So timely, i just came across this same hose replacement task on my to-do list. I found one at Mac's for $5.99 (3 feet). It's in the Mustang section, Part #: 44-366342-1
https://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_must ... -1979.html?
https://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_must ... -1979.html?
-migs
1962 Hardtop ...perpetual WIP
1962 Hardtop ...perpetual WIP
- Alan H. Tast
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Re: small surge tank hose
Mac's is a supporter of VTCI by advertising in our magazine, "Thunderbird Scoop." Do be aware that shipping and handling charges for a small order like just the hose may be a bit pricey, so I suggest looking to see if there are other items you need to order so as to keep the S&H charges within reason.saenzm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:11 pm So timely, i just came across this same hose replacement task on my to-do list. I found one at Mac's for $5.99 (3 feet). It's in the Mustang section, Part #: 44-366342-1
https://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_must ... -1979.html?
Alan H. Tast, AIA
Technical Director/Past President,
Vintage Thunderbird Club Int'l.
Author, "Thunderbird 1955-1966" & "Thunderbird 50 Years"
1963 Hardtop & 1963 Sports Roadster
Technical Director/Past President,
Vintage Thunderbird Club Int'l.
Author, "Thunderbird 1955-1966" & "Thunderbird 50 Years"
1963 Hardtop & 1963 Sports Roadster
Re: small surge tank hose
Alan, thanks for the tip. Looks like it's time to beef up that shopping cart!
-migs
1962 Hardtop ...perpetual WIP
1962 Hardtop ...perpetual WIP
Re: small surge tank hose
Wise advise Alan, I have been there and done that too !Alan H. Tast wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:39 pmMac's is a supporter of VTCI by advertising in our magazine, "Thunderbird Scoop." Do be aware that shipping and handling charges for a small order like just the hose may be a bit pricey, so I suggest looking to see if there are other items you need to order so as to keep the S&H charges within reason.saenzm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:11 pm So timely, i just came across this same hose replacement task on my to-do list. I found one at Mac's for $5.99 (3 feet). It's in the Mustang section, Part #: 44-366342-1
https://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_must ... -1979.html?
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